WEBVTT 00:12.470 --> 00:14.055 Oh, but I'll get all embarrassed. 00:14.139 --> 00:16.641 -Will you? Bullshit. -I doubt that. 00:19.060 --> 00:21.104 They're convincing me to let you in. 00:21.813 --> 00:23.690 -Oh, go on, let him in. -Oh… 00:23.773 --> 00:25.108 Right. 00:33.241 --> 00:35.201 Come into my room. Come. 00:36.745 --> 00:38.580 Oh! Oh! 00:38.663 --> 00:41.458 -He's wrecking things already. -Sorry. 00:45.211 --> 00:46.254 Where to begin? 00:55.680 --> 00:57.932 There's certainly no end. 01:01.603 --> 01:03.605 You're part of my story 01:05.815 --> 01:07.817 I had a secret that I kept to myself… 01:07.901 --> 01:10.945 "I'm not a hoarder," she says, surrounded by… 01:11.029 --> 01:12.072 Oh, okay. 01:12.155 --> 01:15.950 But I found these, and I don't really know what's in them. 01:16.034 --> 01:18.244 Oh, there's the-- Oh, gosh, that's a bit much. 01:18.328 --> 01:21.998 The first time the hot pants went out. Sorry about that. 01:22.665 --> 01:24.918 You said turn another page 01:25.001 --> 01:26.377 Baby, take the stage 01:26.461 --> 01:27.378 You know the stars… 01:27.462 --> 01:30.131 My final guest is a megastar of pop. 01:30.215 --> 01:31.674 More hits than the Mafia. 01:31.758 --> 01:33.510 Welcome Grammy Award winner… 01:33.593 --> 01:34.969 Kylie! 01:35.053 --> 01:36.596 I need to do some editing here. 01:36.679 --> 01:40.517 I really do need to do some editing. Ah-ha, we're back in safe territory. 01:41.434 --> 01:43.645 And when the rain came down I couldn't… 01:43.728 --> 01:46.272 -Thanks for joining. -Good evening. 01:46.356 --> 01:47.732 Good morning. 01:47.816 --> 01:51.361 Rustling papers is one of the most irritating noises. 01:51.444 --> 01:54.823 It will send me wild. 01:54.906 --> 01:57.951 Anyone agree? No, just me. 01:59.327 --> 02:00.703 Okay. 02:00.787 --> 02:02.705 You said turn another page… 02:02.789 --> 02:04.749 In this business, they come and go. 02:04.833 --> 02:07.585 You know the stars Are coming out for you 02:07.669 --> 02:09.045 Ebb and then they flow… 02:09.128 --> 02:12.298 But you have an amazing way of reinventing yourself. 02:12.382 --> 02:14.300 I've never done anything like this. 02:14.384 --> 02:15.760 Turn another page 02:15.844 --> 02:18.096 I don't know where we're going. 02:19.055 --> 02:20.932 But you're gonna reveal a lot of things. 02:21.015 --> 02:22.183 I didn't walk on… 02:22.267 --> 02:23.393 You just can't wait, can you? 02:23.476 --> 02:25.728 You're like, "The worse, the better. Give it to me." 02:27.480 --> 02:30.024 But I'm tentative to see the things that I'm hiding. 02:31.651 --> 02:33.611 But I'm not hiding it from you. 02:34.195 --> 02:35.238 It's from myself. 02:38.283 --> 02:41.995 Hard on the inside 02:42.078 --> 02:44.706 It's been good, great, terrible. 02:44.789 --> 02:47.167 Hard on the inside 02:47.250 --> 02:49.878 But I just keep trying to get back on stage. 02:51.754 --> 02:53.923 Life makes sense to me on stage. 02:54.632 --> 02:57.427 And people don't know why. 02:58.052 --> 02:58.887 Yeah? 02:59.387 --> 03:01.848 -You wanna talk about that now? -Not now. 03:02.348 --> 03:03.725 A hundred percent not now. 03:05.059 --> 03:06.728 You said turn another page 03:06.811 --> 03:10.023 The new viral hit has introduced a new audience to Kylie. 03:10.106 --> 03:13.902 Her songs have been streamed over five billion times. 03:13.985 --> 03:15.069 Baby, feel the glow 03:15.153 --> 03:17.530 There's 35 years of stuff. 03:17.614 --> 03:18.823 More. 03:18.907 --> 03:22.911 How are we going to do this? When I say "we," I mean you. 03:22.994 --> 03:25.288 You know the answer 03:25.371 --> 03:28.499 Turn another page Baby, take the stage 03:28.583 --> 03:31.753 You know the stars Are coming out for you 03:31.836 --> 03:34.964 You know, you know You know the answer 03:37.133 --> 03:39.093 -Thank you very much. -Thank you. 03:39.802 --> 03:41.679 Satisfying, that, isn't it? 03:47.977 --> 03:49.854 What's your version of the start? 03:52.732 --> 03:53.566 Ooh. 03:54.150 --> 03:56.486 Ah, the '80s. 03:56.569 --> 03:59.322 Seems like another lifetime. 03:59.405 --> 04:02.158 But I'll tell it to you as if it's box fresh. 04:02.242 --> 04:03.284 Um… 04:03.368 --> 04:04.452 So… 04:07.330 --> 04:10.124 I came to London when I was 19. 04:10.208 --> 04:12.251 Trafalgar Square. 04:13.253 --> 04:15.046 From the other end of the Earth. 04:16.798 --> 04:18.549 To go and make a record. 04:19.801 --> 04:21.511 It was wildly exciting. 04:23.388 --> 04:27.600 I remember going down a laneway into a humble entrance. 04:27.684 --> 04:31.312 And then the first room, there's just gold records everywhere. 04:31.396 --> 04:33.731 Here we go. 04:33.815 --> 04:35.733 Dead or Alive "You Spin Me Round," 04:35.817 --> 04:37.068 Bananarama, 04:37.151 --> 04:38.695 Donna Summer. 04:40.905 --> 04:43.241 So, I was riddled with self-doubt and anxiety 04:43.324 --> 04:46.327 and all those other wonderful things that we love. 04:48.955 --> 04:52.834 Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down 04:52.917 --> 04:57.213 Never gonna run around and desert you 04:58.756 --> 05:00.758 -Ready? -Yeah, I'm ready when you are. 05:00.842 --> 05:03.803 Quick! Because I've got to be out of here by 3:00. 05:05.638 --> 05:10.184 I got a call telling me there was a small Antipodean in the reception, 05:10.268 --> 05:11.686 expecting to make a record. 05:11.769 --> 05:13.688 Didn't even know what an Antipodean was. 05:15.982 --> 05:20.486 You got to understand, I had no idea who this girl was, right? 05:21.237 --> 05:24.574 I mean, we've got Rick Astley, the world's biggest artist. 05:24.657 --> 05:27.118 It was, "Another artist? Please!" 05:28.619 --> 05:32.498 So, I was waiting around for ages. 05:33.082 --> 05:36.044 And they'd forgotten I was there. 05:37.962 --> 05:39.672 But she had to catch a flight, 05:40.256 --> 05:42.550 two and a half hours later, back to Sydney. 05:44.510 --> 05:47.430 I'm asking, "What are we doing?" 05:49.390 --> 05:50.767 So, I just thought… 05:52.810 --> 05:54.103 …"Let's do it." 06:02.195 --> 06:04.697 They had to write a song really quickly for me. 06:04.781 --> 06:07.200 ln allegedly 40 minutes. Who knows? 06:08.868 --> 06:11.412 Everyone's story's slightly different. 06:11.496 --> 06:13.873 Oh, two hours. It took two hours. 06:13.956 --> 06:15.875 And that is a very true story. 06:18.419 --> 06:20.254 But we didn't have the title of the song. 06:21.798 --> 06:24.258 And she only had 30 minutes to get to the airport. 06:27.345 --> 06:29.847 So, somebody said, "You should be so lucky." 06:30.723 --> 06:32.183 I said, "That's it." 06:32.266 --> 06:34.310 I should be so lucky 06:34.394 --> 06:36.104 Lucky, lucky, lucky 06:36.187 --> 06:39.690 I should be so lucky in love 06:40.650 --> 06:42.777 I should be so lucky 06:42.860 --> 06:44.695 Lucky, lucky, lucky 06:44.779 --> 06:47.990 I should be so lucky in love 06:49.992 --> 06:53.329 And that was it. No conversation, that was it. She'd gone. 06:53.996 --> 06:54.956 Just gone. 06:56.999 --> 06:59.502 I didn't know if the song was any good or what it meant 06:59.585 --> 07:00.586 or would it even make it? 07:00.670 --> 07:02.588 Who are these guys? What just happened? 07:07.718 --> 07:13.683 I had no idea that I was about to go over the precipice 07:13.766 --> 07:15.852 into a different world. 07:23.484 --> 07:25.778 Good morning, gang, this is the Hitman 07:25.862 --> 07:28.781 with the latest hits before they're hits. 07:28.865 --> 07:30.992 I was on the radio at 9:00 in the morning. 07:31.075 --> 07:33.828 Come on, gang, keep your feet dancing. 07:33.911 --> 07:38.249 And my producer walked in and saw on the label "Kylie Minogue." 07:38.332 --> 07:40.126 He said, "It's Kylie Minogue." 07:40.751 --> 07:43.713 Yeah. "No, Pete, it's Kylie Minogue!" 07:43.796 --> 07:45.590 I went, "Sorry?" 07:45.673 --> 07:48.092 He said, "Open the mic, 07:48.176 --> 07:50.720 tell them they're gonna hear the first Kylie Minogue single." 07:50.803 --> 07:54.223 He said, "But only till you hear the first vocal and then stop it." 07:55.391 --> 07:57.727 I said, "What?" He said, "Do as you're told." 07:59.562 --> 08:02.523 Stay tuned, 'cause you may just miss that hit! 08:04.108 --> 08:05.610 And this could be it. 08:08.654 --> 08:10.364 Kylie Minogue's doing it. 08:10.448 --> 08:11.741 In my imagin-- 08:12.575 --> 08:13.409 Close mic. 08:14.535 --> 08:17.079 The phones went nuts. 08:20.041 --> 08:22.418 All 30 lines lit up instantly. 08:23.169 --> 08:25.588 When you have a switch, you can knock all them off. 08:30.885 --> 08:34.305 So, I'm knocking the 30 lines out fast and furious and couldn't stop them. 08:35.014 --> 08:37.725 Now that's unheard of. That doesn't happen. 08:39.268 --> 08:42.104 And then I get a call from the BBC. 08:42.188 --> 08:44.565 "You've done a single with Kylie Minogue?" 08:45.191 --> 08:46.150 Sorry? 08:47.568 --> 08:50.279 Next thing, "You're doing Top of the Pops." 08:50.363 --> 08:51.197 "I'm what?" 08:55.868 --> 08:59.413 I didn't even know what Top of the Pops was. Like… 08:59.497 --> 09:01.499 Good evening, welcome to Top of the Pops. 09:01.582 --> 09:04.544 We have Bros in the studio tonight, Elton John is with us. 09:05.628 --> 09:09.048 Let's go over here now, Kylie Minogue's "I Should Be So Lucky." 09:09.131 --> 09:11.968 In my imagination there is no… 09:13.010 --> 09:15.555 Well, this was the biggest television show in Britain. 09:16.681 --> 09:19.350 And I don't know what the crowds are gonna be like outside. 09:22.645 --> 09:27.066 Kylie! Kylie! Kylie! 09:27.149 --> 09:30.027 It was like, "What the hell's going on here?" 09:30.111 --> 09:32.238 "What's-- What is this?" 09:35.074 --> 09:38.869 Now, you've got to understand, I had no idea what Neighbours was. 09:53.551 --> 09:54.677 All right. 09:55.761 --> 09:57.847 Neighbours… 09:57.930 --> 10:01.559 There's not a day, really, goes by in my life 10:01.642 --> 10:03.978 where at some point I don't refer back… 10:05.396 --> 10:07.481 to those years. 10:07.565 --> 10:12.528 The amount of times I get into a cab and someone will go, "How's Kylie?" 10:12.612 --> 10:15.865 And it's like, "Oh, fuck. I don't fucking know." 10:15.948 --> 10:17.575 "You go and ask fucking her." 10:17.658 --> 10:21.412 And that, you know, it's not a disrespect to her. 10:21.495 --> 10:25.750 It's just, come on, man. You know, that's a long time ago. 10:27.918 --> 10:31.922 What I can remember was sitting in the wardrobe van 10:32.006 --> 10:34.091 on the set of Neighbours, 10:34.175 --> 10:36.802 this little Aussie soap opera. 10:37.928 --> 10:42.183 And this new actor had arrived, and she turned around to me. 10:42.266 --> 10:45.227 It was her first day, and said, "Do you remember me?" 10:45.978 --> 10:49.649 Small world. My first day ever on a set. 10:50.232 --> 10:52.485 We played brother and sister. 10:52.568 --> 10:54.236 It was just crazy. 10:54.820 --> 10:56.947 "Wow! God, that's right." 10:57.031 --> 10:58.949 But I couldn't remember her, no. 11:00.493 --> 11:01.911 He's got a pet spider. 11:01.994 --> 11:04.288 -Do you want to see it? -Well, does he bite? 11:04.372 --> 11:05.790 No, not if he likes you. 11:06.374 --> 11:09.877 I can understand why I couldn't. She had those buck teeth. 11:10.503 --> 11:12.546 So, she looked a lot different. 11:12.630 --> 11:13.673 Want to pet him? 11:13.756 --> 11:15.341 Go on. 11:15.424 --> 11:18.678 Suddenly, it was like, "Wow!" 11:23.599 --> 11:25.309 He spoke about you. 11:29.105 --> 11:31.649 -She talked about you. -Did she? 11:31.732 --> 11:33.192 -Yeah. -This will be interesting. 11:35.027 --> 11:37.613 My first scene on Neighbours was with him. 11:38.280 --> 11:39.156 Punching him. 11:39.740 --> 11:40.866 Ow! 11:42.284 --> 11:44.662 I think that she did actually punch me. 11:46.080 --> 11:47.248 Sorry, Scott. 11:47.832 --> 11:49.917 I don't know what that says about me. 11:53.629 --> 11:55.297 -You know your stuff, don't you? -Sure do. 11:57.550 --> 12:00.928 When I joined, it wasn't a huge show. 12:01.011 --> 12:03.139 -Hi, I'm Jason Donovan. -And I'm Kylie Minogue. 12:03.222 --> 12:06.434 -Join us here on Monday night. -On Perth's new Channel 10. 12:07.518 --> 12:11.772 But the producers could see the chemistry between the two of us. 12:12.648 --> 12:15.526 So, we were coupled together in the show. 12:16.527 --> 12:19.363 -What's happening this arvo? -I'm babysitting Bradley. 12:19.447 --> 12:22.324 Why don't I look after him with you? We could do our assignments. 12:22.408 --> 12:23.242 Yeah, okay. 12:31.792 --> 12:34.545 Would you like to try for three broken ribs? 12:35.588 --> 12:38.048 But we were just good friends. 12:41.677 --> 12:43.971 We could understand each other. 12:44.930 --> 12:46.766 And we must have fancied each other as well. 12:46.849 --> 12:48.767 That helps. 12:49.518 --> 12:51.854 You're the last thing I think of before I go to sleep 12:51.937 --> 12:54.106 and the first thing I think of when I wake up. 12:54.190 --> 12:55.733 I'm serious! 12:55.816 --> 12:57.651 You make me sound like cleaning your teeth. 12:57.735 --> 12:58.861 I mean, ahem… 12:59.528 --> 13:03.032 Um, I don't remember a specific moment 13:04.617 --> 13:07.036 Kylie and I came together. 13:11.499 --> 13:14.460 Well, I-I do remember. It was in Sydney at the… 13:15.669 --> 13:17.630 …very publicly at the Travelodge. 13:19.757 --> 13:21.258 We were just kids. 13:21.759 --> 13:23.302 We were fresh out of high school, 13:23.385 --> 13:26.430 so it was like that kind of sweetheart's romance. 13:27.932 --> 13:30.351 It was art imitating life. 13:30.935 --> 13:32.269 Can I tell you something? 13:33.479 --> 13:36.023 -I love you, Scott. -I love you too. 13:36.524 --> 13:37.399 Promise? 13:38.150 --> 13:39.902 Yeah, I promise. 13:39.985 --> 13:42.863 Suddenly, I see… 13:42.947 --> 13:45.032 Or life imitating art. 13:45.115 --> 13:47.535 Just the way I am… 13:48.035 --> 13:51.288 But we decided to keep the relationship a secret. 13:53.082 --> 13:55.668 Because it would give us a fighting chance. 13:57.336 --> 13:58.462 Suddenly… 13:58.546 --> 14:02.925 I'm totally confused. Are you or are you not just good friends? 14:03.008 --> 14:05.177 Maybe. 14:10.683 --> 14:13.185 Did I think we were ever going to get married? 14:15.187 --> 14:17.565 Now I know that you are… 14:18.148 --> 14:19.692 The truth is, yeah. 14:20.609 --> 14:22.903 And have kids and… 14:23.696 --> 14:27.241 That's the script written, and off you go. 14:28.450 --> 14:30.744 Suddenly, I see… 14:30.828 --> 14:33.289 I thought it was my destination. 14:33.372 --> 14:35.207 Just the way I am 14:37.042 --> 14:41.088 It struck a chord with the audience because it was real. 14:43.007 --> 14:44.341 The winner is 14:44.425 --> 14:45.843 Kylie Minogue. 14:49.013 --> 14:51.515 Neighbours has gone on to become the most successful 14:51.599 --> 14:53.517 Australian television series ever produced. 14:54.268 --> 14:58.230 Jason and Kylie have become national heroes. 14:58.314 --> 15:00.816 It became really popular in Australia. 15:00.900 --> 15:03.110 I'm lucky I can reach this microphone. 15:03.193 --> 15:04.945 But maybe not… 15:06.238 --> 15:11.118 as kind of obsessed and maniacal as it was elsewhere. 15:11.201 --> 15:14.496 We're going live by satellite to the set of Neighbours. 15:14.580 --> 15:16.248 Melbourne? Melbourne, is that right? 15:16.332 --> 15:17.166 Hello! 15:17.249 --> 15:19.043 Oh, they can hear me. Success. 15:19.126 --> 15:21.754 Kylie Minogue, who plays Charlene. 15:21.837 --> 15:23.339 Yes, hello. 15:24.340 --> 15:27.676 The TV executives say they've rarely seen anything like it. 15:27.760 --> 15:31.263 Will you try and see it my way? I don't want to leave you. 15:31.347 --> 15:35.017 Within weeks, schoolchildren all over were wagging school to watch the program. 15:36.393 --> 15:39.396 I bunk off school, actually, to watch it, seriously. 15:39.980 --> 15:44.818 It was wild. We didn't understand. It was hysteria. 15:45.694 --> 15:48.072 In Oxford Street, normally a traffic nightmare. 15:48.155 --> 15:52.910 But at 1:30, the greatest TV phenomenon to hit this nation 15:53.494 --> 15:55.579 brings the city to a standstill. 15:55.663 --> 15:58.165 And people were changing their doctor's hours 15:58.248 --> 15:59.416 or their working hours. 16:00.250 --> 16:02.378 Princess Diana phoned the BBC 16:03.504 --> 16:05.714 for two episodes she'd missed. 16:08.384 --> 16:11.637 What do you think it is that makes Neighbours so popular here? 16:12.763 --> 16:14.556 It's just fun to watch. 16:14.640 --> 16:18.018 Rather than watching EastEnders and putting yourself in a noose after. 16:18.102 --> 16:21.397 This time yesterday, I was ready to chuck the whole thing in. 16:21.480 --> 16:24.525 With an audience of 24 million people a day, 16:24.608 --> 16:26.944 there can't be all that many not watching. 16:27.528 --> 16:30.948 Now, I had no idea what Neighbours was. 16:31.031 --> 16:33.242 We were too busy. We didn't watch television. 16:36.453 --> 16:38.789 It just wasn't in our psyche at all. 16:40.708 --> 16:44.837 Then, of course, I find out she's this enormous figure. 16:49.925 --> 16:51.218 I was sort of gobsmacked. 16:51.301 --> 16:53.137 Kylie! Kylie! Kylie! 16:53.220 --> 16:55.556 I didn't realize how big she was. 16:55.639 --> 16:58.058 Kylie! Kylie! Kylie! 16:58.142 --> 16:59.476 But then it's like, 17:00.769 --> 17:03.272 "I understand this now. I get it." 17:03.856 --> 17:07.151 The ice cream wasn't us. The ice cream was Neighbours. 17:07.234 --> 17:09.028 We put the cherry on top. 17:09.111 --> 17:09.987 And then, bang! 17:10.654 --> 17:11.905 Kylie! 17:16.869 --> 17:19.371 People believed Kylie was their friend. 17:19.455 --> 17:21.206 -I love you, Kylie! -Yeah! 17:22.875 --> 17:24.543 She was 17:26.086 --> 17:27.880 the girl next door. 17:28.422 --> 17:33.052 In my imagination There is no complication 17:33.135 --> 17:35.095 I dream about you all the time 17:35.179 --> 17:38.390 This is Bruno Brookes here in London with a brand-new Top 40. 17:38.474 --> 17:41.477 …celebration The sweetest of sensation 17:41.560 --> 17:45.647 At three, it climbs four, Billy Ocean, "Get Out of My Dreams." 17:45.731 --> 17:50.486 Number two, it was last week's number one, Tiffany, "I Think We're Alone Now." 17:50.569 --> 17:54.656 …together hand in hand, I'm dreaming… 17:54.740 --> 17:57.910 Let's get the pun out of the way now, I am lucky, lucky, lucky. 17:58.535 --> 18:00.954 Which means that Britain has a brand-new… 18:01.038 --> 18:02.289 Number one. 18:02.372 --> 18:06.126 I should be so lucky Lucky, lucky, lucky 18:06.210 --> 18:09.838 I should be so lucky in love 18:09.922 --> 18:11.757 It's a crazy situation… 18:11.840 --> 18:17.304 But I was this upstart who's stolen the number one position. 18:17.387 --> 18:19.598 Were you always wanting to get into music? 18:19.681 --> 18:21.308 Um, I think so. 18:21.391 --> 18:22.976 The problem… The problem… 18:23.060 --> 18:24.812 Hey, retake. 18:24.895 --> 18:26.980 Because on radio, 18:27.564 --> 18:31.235 it was much more rock and roll, much more male. 18:31.902 --> 18:33.445 You know, great artists. 18:33.529 --> 18:36.990 I'm dreaming That you're in love with me… 18:37.074 --> 18:38.408 It definitely 18:39.118 --> 18:40.661 was not littered 18:42.079 --> 18:43.121 with 18:44.373 --> 18:47.000 soap star turned singers. No. 18:48.877 --> 18:51.839 So when you started out, did you mean to be an actress or a singer? 18:53.799 --> 18:56.218 "But you're an actress. You can't be a singer." 18:57.094 --> 19:00.389 I just remember struggling with it all those years ago, 19:00.472 --> 19:02.558 thinking, "Well, what do you mean?" 19:02.641 --> 19:04.309 Are you a singer or an actress? 19:04.393 --> 19:06.228 -What do you want to be? -Both. 19:08.147 --> 19:10.149 Well, it just didn't make sense to me. 19:10.816 --> 19:13.193 It just didn't make sense. 19:15.070 --> 19:17.614 Eventually, you're gonna have to decide to be one or the other. 19:17.698 --> 19:18.991 Well, eventually, um… 19:20.033 --> 19:22.161 I don't like to be trapped. 19:22.244 --> 19:26.456 I don't like to be put in a box. And I was through those early years. 19:26.540 --> 19:29.501 "But you can't be a singer. Surely you can't." 19:30.043 --> 19:30.878 That's… 19:31.503 --> 19:34.381 "How can you do both?" It's just-- It's dumb. 19:34.464 --> 19:36.258 "How could you do both?" 19:36.341 --> 19:37.217 Well, 19:38.260 --> 19:43.348 tell that to Dolly and Cher and Barbra and see what they've got to say about it. 19:43.432 --> 19:45.559 They'll take you down. 19:46.602 --> 19:50.647 So back then it was like, "Wow, that worked. Now what?" 19:51.648 --> 19:54.193 Where are you going now? What are your big plans? 19:54.276 --> 19:58.280 To go to England as soon as I can and record an album. 20:02.159 --> 20:05.370 When Kylie Minogue became an international recording star, 20:07.164 --> 20:11.084 she owed it all to Stock, Aitken, and Waterman. 20:11.168 --> 20:13.295 No, they're not her lawyers. 20:13.378 --> 20:16.215 Just got to watch my bald spot on that top shot, you know. 20:16.298 --> 20:18.634 They're the most successful creative team 20:18.717 --> 20:21.261 in the multi-million-dollar world of pop. 20:21.345 --> 20:24.514 I asked Pete Waterman for the secret of their success. 20:24.598 --> 20:25.641 It's disposable. 20:25.724 --> 20:27.851 You buy it, you sing it, you have a good time, 20:27.935 --> 20:29.895 it's not to be taken seriously, 20:29.978 --> 20:33.148 then you put it in your record collection, and it's a memory. 20:33.232 --> 20:36.693 You don't try and analyze it to find out what's happening in Nicaragua. 20:37.402 --> 20:42.074 I'm wondering why 20:42.157 --> 20:44.785 This is really loud. Me. 20:46.328 --> 20:51.917 We had to make a whole album in between takes of, you know, Neighbours. 20:52.000 --> 20:53.794 Okay, here we go. And action. 20:53.877 --> 20:55.963 Come in, Scott. It concerns him too. 20:56.046 --> 20:57.214 -He's my boyfriend. -Yes. 20:57.297 --> 21:00.008 Firstly, Neighbours had to write me out of the show. 21:00.092 --> 21:02.094 I've got a job. It's up in Brisbane. 21:02.177 --> 21:04.304 -When are you leaving? -Flight this afternoon. 21:05.555 --> 21:08.517 During which time, I would fly to England. 21:09.142 --> 21:13.021 I would get to the Sacred Studio. The song would be written out. 21:13.105 --> 21:15.440 Here's how it goes, sing it, learn it. 21:15.524 --> 21:16.692 Go! 21:17.484 --> 21:21.613 What's all the hurry? I thought we had forever 21:21.697 --> 21:23.782 Got it? Good. Next. 21:26.243 --> 21:30.080 Hi, I'm Kylie on the set of my new video. I hope you like it. 21:33.625 --> 21:36.253 It was like, "You're on a flight tonight. Let's do it. Go." 21:37.546 --> 21:40.465 And head straight back to the set of Neighbours again. 21:40.549 --> 21:42.050 Oh! 21:42.134 --> 21:43.927 Scott told me you were home. 21:44.011 --> 21:46.013 Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. 21:46.096 --> 21:47.389 -See you later. -See you. 21:48.974 --> 21:52.185 That's what it was like. No time to think or plan anything. 21:52.269 --> 21:54.354 We have two hours today, that's it. 21:54.438 --> 21:57.065 Then I discovered 21:57.149 --> 22:00.485 Most of the songs was written literally as she sang it. 22:01.153 --> 22:04.406 But I was the last to know 22:06.450 --> 22:10.912 I'd love to say this was well planned, but it was just on the hoof. 22:10.996 --> 22:12.748 It's no secret 22:14.624 --> 22:16.209 -G'day, Chief. -Charlene. 22:16.293 --> 22:17.753 You can pack your bag and go. 22:18.295 --> 22:19.421 Take two. 22:19.963 --> 22:22.090 I was having an affair with a French girl, 22:22.174 --> 22:25.135 and she kept using this wonderful expression, "Je ne sais quoi." 22:26.011 --> 22:30.640 I had no idea what je ne sais quoi was, but I went, "That's for us." 22:30.724 --> 22:34.728 I still want you 22:34.811 --> 22:37.814 Je ne sais pas pourquoi 22:40.901 --> 22:42.819 I decide to pull into Wolverhampton, 22:42.903 --> 22:44.154 to Ruby Red Records. 22:44.237 --> 22:46.990 I swear to you, on my life, this is a true story. 22:47.074 --> 22:48.909 The first two kids walk through the door, 22:48.992 --> 22:51.870 "Could I have a copy of 'Je Ne Sais Pas Pourquoi,' please?" 22:51.953 --> 22:55.290 I thought, ka-ching! I've just hit the jackpot. 22:55.874 --> 22:58.585 Which means that Britain has a brand-new… 22:58.668 --> 22:59.920 Number one. 23:00.003 --> 23:02.881 Hi, everybody! You all having a good time? 23:02.964 --> 23:03.799 Whoo! 23:03.882 --> 23:05.592 And the ironic thing is 23:05.675 --> 23:09.221 it's still the biggest record Kylie's ever had in France. 23:09.304 --> 23:10.889 Kylie Minogue, you know her? 23:10.972 --> 23:14.101 -She's known as "Keely." -"Keely" Minogue. 23:14.184 --> 23:16.144 Keely Minogue. 23:16.228 --> 23:20.357 She is at the top of the European charts. 23:20.440 --> 23:23.068 You're number one in Finland and Germany and Greece. 23:23.151 --> 23:24.027 Great. 23:25.904 --> 23:29.658 I was thrust into doing this photo shoot and that photo shoot and these interviews. 23:30.408 --> 23:31.785 What's your schedule like? 23:32.369 --> 23:36.706 Go to Germany for a day, Spain for a day, Japan. 23:36.790 --> 23:38.750 I've not yet been… Actually, I have. 23:42.963 --> 23:44.798 I just did what I was told. 23:46.883 --> 23:48.760 I had no clout to really say no. 23:50.554 --> 23:52.097 I didn't really ask questions. 23:53.473 --> 23:55.600 And I had to be neatened up and perfected. 23:57.394 --> 23:59.062 And always be happy. 24:00.939 --> 24:02.399 -Hello? -Here. 24:02.482 --> 24:04.985 -Can I ask you questions? -Sure. 24:05.068 --> 24:07.988 How do you feel about smoking, drinking, drugs, and sex? 24:08.071 --> 24:08.905 All these things? 24:17.831 --> 24:21.460 She's selling more records than any other female artist in the world. 24:23.837 --> 24:28.717 600,000 albums sold in Great Britain. Hooray for Kylie! 24:28.800 --> 24:32.345 It was a swift education as to how the machine works. 24:32.429 --> 24:34.431 Pete Waterman, who else? 24:34.514 --> 24:36.641 -Dance, Kylie. -Okay! 24:40.020 --> 24:43.064 And I said to her, "This is like a skyrocket." 24:43.648 --> 24:45.984 "Hold on the stick, enjoy every minute of it." 24:46.067 --> 24:48.278 Big round of applause for Kylie! 24:49.696 --> 24:52.240 "Because it will come down at some point." 24:54.618 --> 24:56.203 Right, welcome. 24:56.286 --> 24:57.913 Thereby proving Andy Warhol's dictum 24:57.996 --> 25:00.624 that everyone will be famous for 15 minutes. 25:00.707 --> 25:02.667 Well, 15 minutes can be a long time, 25:02.751 --> 25:07.047 especially when you spend it listening to the work of that Melbourne nightingale, 25:07.130 --> 25:08.340 Kylie Minogue. 25:08.423 --> 25:12.135 Who's also here with us today. All five foot one of her. 25:12.219 --> 25:16.223 Alas, only in two dimensions, but who can tell the difference anyway? 25:17.891 --> 25:19.309 No one wants… 25:21.853 --> 25:26.066 endeavor to be free of effort or free of challenge. 25:27.776 --> 25:28.610 But… 25:31.905 --> 25:34.366 it was a baptism of fire. 25:36.117 --> 25:36.952 Wanna sign inside? 25:37.035 --> 25:38.787 What I find so fake is, 25:38.870 --> 25:41.665 "I'm just an ordinary person. I'm just the girl next door." 25:41.748 --> 25:43.542 You can't live next to a star. 25:44.668 --> 25:46.711 She's especially ordinary. 25:46.795 --> 25:48.421 Are you gonna smile? 25:49.422 --> 25:52.217 -Unexceptional celebrities. -Dull, banal. 25:55.762 --> 25:57.389 It's a blinding ordinariness. 25:59.349 --> 26:01.893 At this one, Kylie. This one, Kylie. 26:01.977 --> 26:03.562 Heavy criticism. 26:04.938 --> 26:06.398 Kylie! 26:06.481 --> 26:10.485 I remember hearing clangers that were really public. 26:10.569 --> 26:11.611 Um… 26:12.112 --> 26:17.409 Um, I'm just trying to think of a good word for it. Being mean. 26:18.910 --> 26:22.247 A soap star who got a deal off the fact that she's well known. 26:24.624 --> 26:25.542 Kylie. 26:26.167 --> 26:28.461 No longer have to be interesting to get to number one. 26:28.545 --> 26:31.006 You can just be a sort of human, crocheted scarf. 26:32.257 --> 26:36.761 It is absolutely awful, mechanistic, valueless, meaningless stuff. Terrible. 26:39.055 --> 26:42.559 And to be 19 years old and having to 26:43.601 --> 26:44.811 cop that. 26:45.603 --> 26:47.147 That was unpleasant. 26:48.732 --> 26:52.193 -Why? She can sing, can't she? -No, she can't sing. 26:55.614 --> 26:56.990 No, she can't. 27:00.452 --> 27:03.288 Well, the best one was, "She can't sing." 27:03.371 --> 27:05.957 She can't sing. I'm sorry, Kylie, but you can't sing. 27:09.711 --> 27:14.299 And one of the terms used to describe me. 27:15.050 --> 27:16.593 The Singing Budgie. 27:17.552 --> 27:19.179 The Singing Budgie. 27:21.556 --> 27:25.727 The human part was missing. It's like, "Who are they? Who are they?" 27:26.353 --> 27:27.896 Who decides this is cool? 27:30.106 --> 27:33.151 Some radio stations refused to play her record 27:33.234 --> 27:36.196 because of what they called "the high irritant factor." 27:37.656 --> 27:41.868 What would happen if I met them and I sat face-to-face with them and say, 27:42.577 --> 27:44.621 "How would you feel if that was your daughter?" 27:46.289 --> 27:48.249 I feel very lucky 27:48.333 --> 27:50.043 Staggeringly lucky 28:02.263 --> 28:06.476 And those critical voices were very different 28:06.559 --> 28:09.396 to the voices that I grew up with. 28:10.105 --> 28:12.524 The good chairs are taken. You've got to be quick. 28:12.607 --> 28:14.359 You have to be quick. 28:16.903 --> 28:21.533 I was raised without any putdowns, without ever hearing, 28:21.616 --> 28:23.576 "You can't do this, you can't do that." 28:23.660 --> 28:24.869 Cheers, everybody. 28:24.953 --> 28:26.371 Cheers to a great year. 28:26.454 --> 28:29.666 We were just encouraged to do what we loved. 28:31.459 --> 28:33.378 And that was music. 28:34.504 --> 28:36.381 It was every-- It was everything. 28:36.464 --> 28:38.883 And how lucky, we're all together. 28:38.967 --> 28:41.219 We managed to all be together. 28:41.302 --> 28:45.140 We managed-- We managed to be together and we managed to stay together. 28:49.144 --> 28:52.522 My dad was an accountant. Worked really hard. 28:53.273 --> 28:54.816 But he loved playing music. 28:55.650 --> 28:57.152 He really loves jazz. 28:57.735 --> 28:59.529 He loves, like, not what I do. 29:00.113 --> 29:03.158 The roses in the window box 29:03.241 --> 29:06.161 My mother was a ballerina when she was a teenager. 29:07.287 --> 29:09.789 Any elegance I have is from my mother. 29:09.873 --> 29:12.250 Was born to grow and die… 29:12.333 --> 29:16.671 And I've always thought, I'm kind of a shy child. 29:16.754 --> 29:19.007 I wasn't in school plays or anything, but actually… 29:19.090 --> 29:22.051 Sorry, honey If I don't change the pace… 29:22.635 --> 29:24.679 I mean, she's posing already. 29:27.098 --> 29:28.725 They had three kids under 4. 29:29.809 --> 29:30.852 Three scallywags. 29:32.854 --> 29:34.981 So, I was flung into a music class. 29:35.565 --> 29:38.860 Might have been because my parents wanted me out of the house. 29:39.652 --> 29:42.697 But I hated rules. I hated being boxed in. 29:43.823 --> 29:45.658 Refused to do my grades. 29:47.035 --> 29:50.747 And so my love affair with music began with this. 29:51.372 --> 29:53.666 I was playing rock and roll And you were… 29:53.750 --> 29:55.835 This was the portal. 29:55.919 --> 29:57.128 This was the gateway. 29:57.212 --> 29:59.214 So I split the band 30:00.673 --> 30:02.091 Love lies… 30:02.175 --> 30:04.302 I became a pop fanatic. 30:04.886 --> 30:09.724 I would hover above my cassette player to record my favorite music. 30:14.479 --> 30:18.066 And I know we're starting at the beginning, but if I go to the… 30:18.149 --> 30:21.694 Not the end. Let's not call it the end. If we come to the current moment… 30:22.862 --> 30:24.197 I love music even more. 30:26.199 --> 30:28.159 I don't like to be trapped in anything. 30:28.243 --> 30:31.996 I like to have fluidity and have somewhere to go. 30:34.457 --> 30:37.001 Music, by definition, is moving. 30:39.879 --> 30:42.382 And it-- it-- it can go anywhere. 30:42.465 --> 30:44.217 Like within… 30:44.300 --> 30:47.554 I'm probably not explaining it. I'm trying to do it with my hands. But… 30:48.763 --> 30:51.432 With all the different syncopation, all the different notes, 30:51.516 --> 30:56.729 it's a moving, living, breathing thing, and I feel that my being is… 30:56.813 --> 30:59.357 I can relate to that. It talks to me. 30:59.440 --> 31:01.442 Oh 31:01.526 --> 31:03.570 Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh 31:03.653 --> 31:08.032 I used to parade around doing some kind of imaginary performance in my head. 31:08.950 --> 31:12.704 And I just thought all kids dreamt of being a pop star. 31:14.956 --> 31:18.042 But I didn't know how that would ever be a reality. 31:18.126 --> 31:21.796 You've got sort of a musical family, or did you just suddenly decide to sing? 31:21.879 --> 31:25.425 Well, my parents aren't musical. My sister is. She's with me on this trip. 31:25.508 --> 31:26.634 -Is she here? -Yes. 31:26.718 --> 31:29.596 -Has she been on the telly before? -No, not here. 31:29.679 --> 31:31.598 -Would she like to be, you think? -I don't know. 31:31.681 --> 31:33.600 Where is she? Grab her over. Right. 31:34.851 --> 31:35.685 -Hello. -Hello. 31:35.768 --> 31:38.688 Come in. Now, tell you what, you have my chair. 31:38.771 --> 31:40.148 Have my seat. 31:42.942 --> 31:44.819 What's it like having a famous sister? 31:44.903 --> 31:46.529 -It's great. -What do you do? 31:46.613 --> 31:47.864 Um, I sing and dance. 31:47.947 --> 31:50.742 Our initial bedroom was together. 31:51.409 --> 31:53.620 And it was good until it wasn't good. 31:56.789 --> 31:58.082 And when it wasn't good, 31:59.792 --> 32:01.502 it was like a war zone. 32:02.712 --> 32:05.882 At one point, there was sticky tape drawn down the middle of the room. 32:08.092 --> 32:11.095 "That's your side and that's your side, and you cannot cross it." 32:11.179 --> 32:13.431 If a piece of clothing was borrowed, 32:14.265 --> 32:15.892 all hell could break loose. 32:19.103 --> 32:23.066 But when I was 7, I saw the movie Grease. 32:25.401 --> 32:28.154 There was something about Olivia Newton-John. 32:28.237 --> 32:29.906 That spirit, that energy. 32:31.783 --> 32:33.451 It does something to me. 32:35.828 --> 32:37.497 I just remember looking at her thinking, 32:37.580 --> 32:40.583 "I don't know what it is that she does, but I want to do that." 32:41.876 --> 32:42.752 But, you know… 32:43.544 --> 32:45.755 I wanted to be Olivia Newton-John. 32:48.383 --> 32:51.010 Kylie and I both wanted to perform. 32:52.136 --> 32:55.264 Mum and Dad didn't know much about it, 32:55.348 --> 32:58.893 but we pestered them until they broke. 33:00.311 --> 33:03.940 Mum had a great idea of finding an agent 33:04.023 --> 33:05.858 just to shut us up. 33:07.193 --> 33:11.322 Because she's like, "Nothing's going to happen from this." 33:15.284 --> 33:19.747 Rosy cheeks and turned-up nose And curly hair 33:19.831 --> 33:20.748 I'm raving… 33:20.832 --> 33:25.211 My sister Dannii got a part on a TV show called Young Talent Time, 33:25.294 --> 33:27.130 which is kind of like the Mickey Mouse Club. 33:27.213 --> 33:29.882 Hello, Australia, welcome to a really big one. 33:29.966 --> 33:32.427 So, come on, get up, and here we go. 33:32.510 --> 33:34.387 Baby face 33:34.470 --> 33:38.182 You've got the cutest little baby face 33:38.266 --> 33:40.893 But I was not the cutest. 33:40.977 --> 33:42.645 Come buiten. 33:42.729 --> 33:44.814 So, I got an acting job. 33:44.897 --> 33:47.108 Policeman came and took Mama and Papa away. 33:47.191 --> 33:50.194 Now I'm here. And you will save me. 33:51.696 --> 33:54.615 It wasn't very good, but it was, you know… 33:56.743 --> 33:59.871 No, you can't just leave me here! 34:01.956 --> 34:04.542 And then Dannii became a superstar. 34:05.668 --> 34:07.003 Here's Dannii Minogue. 34:07.920 --> 34:10.590 -And Dannii's sister, Kylie Minogue. -Yeah. 34:10.673 --> 34:12.884 She's developed into a fine young actress, hasn't she? 34:14.469 --> 34:17.346 And I just kept getting more and more acting jobs. 34:17.430 --> 34:20.349 Sorry, sir, but I've got a job. This is my last day at school. 34:20.433 --> 34:22.894 -How much are you getting? -I forgot to ask. 34:23.394 --> 34:25.521 Now there was a time 34:25.605 --> 34:28.065 This young lady, Kylie Minogue, is one of the stars 34:28.149 --> 34:29.776 of a new Australian series. 34:29.859 --> 34:31.652 -You proud of your sister? -Of course. 34:31.736 --> 34:33.362 -You proud of your sister? -Yes. 34:33.446 --> 34:36.324 Well, we're proud of both of you. The Minogue girls. 34:36.407 --> 34:38.951 But I didn't have the acting dream. 34:40.161 --> 34:41.954 I was harboring this 34:43.247 --> 34:44.081 fantasy… 34:44.165 --> 34:46.584 So we're coming out of… 34:46.667 --> 34:48.461 …of making music. 34:48.544 --> 34:51.422 'Cause there's somethin' We forgot to say to you 34:51.506 --> 34:54.383 Sisters are doin' it… 34:54.467 --> 34:56.844 Doin' it for themselves 34:56.928 --> 34:59.472 She needs some quiet to concentrate! 35:00.556 --> 35:02.683 Always so dramatic. 35:03.768 --> 35:04.644 But… 35:06.604 --> 35:10.066 So, remember, Johnny Young wants us to sing in the show this week. 35:11.818 --> 35:14.362 -That's my cab. Sorry. -And remember the song. 35:15.446 --> 35:17.740 "Sisters Are Doing It for Themselves." All right. 35:17.824 --> 35:20.868 That's my sister, Kylie. She's always in a hurry. 35:20.952 --> 35:22.870 She plays the part of Charlene in Neighbours. 35:22.954 --> 35:25.998 The little money that I made, I used for singing lessons. 35:26.749 --> 35:28.251 -Four… -Good luck, Kylie. 35:28.334 --> 35:30.795 …three, two, one. 35:30.878 --> 35:32.046 Go! 35:32.130 --> 35:34.549 Now this is a song 35:35.675 --> 35:38.678 To celebrate, yeah 35:40.012 --> 35:43.182 The conscious liberation 35:43.266 --> 35:45.351 Of the female state 35:45.434 --> 35:46.811 And I was nervous as hell. 35:46.894 --> 35:51.399 Mothers, daughters And their daughters too 35:52.024 --> 35:53.943 But young enough to just go for it. 35:54.026 --> 35:55.611 The inferior sex 35:56.529 --> 36:00.032 Had got a new exterior, yeah 36:00.116 --> 36:01.284 We got doctors… 36:01.367 --> 36:06.122 Not long after that, the guy who produced a music show came to me and said, 36:06.205 --> 36:08.416 "You should make a record." 36:10.501 --> 36:14.046 Like, my world became special effects. 36:14.130 --> 36:19.427 Sisters are doin' it for themselves 36:20.219 --> 36:23.556 Standin' on their own two feet 36:23.639 --> 36:26.225 And ringin' on their own bells 36:26.309 --> 36:29.854 Like, someone said that to me. 36:31.147 --> 36:36.194 Sisters are doin' it for themselves 36:40.489 --> 36:42.283 -Kylie! -Kylie! 36:42.366 --> 36:46.495 She's been the butt of a fair bit of cynicism by media in London. 36:46.579 --> 36:50.082 And the papers over there did give her a bit of a pasting, like… 36:50.166 --> 36:52.710 Kylie! Kylie! 36:53.502 --> 36:56.214 "She looked like a slept-in Qantas blanket." 36:57.590 --> 36:59.133 And another thing, 36:59.217 --> 37:02.678 "She looked like she got off the plane in a kangaroo's pouch." 37:02.762 --> 37:04.263 I mean, they really gave her some. 37:04.347 --> 37:08.100 Yeah, um, they get very nasty at times, and it's not nice. 37:10.353 --> 37:13.648 It was crushing to hear 37:14.148 --> 37:18.319 stuff that you would never say now and… 37:20.238 --> 37:21.447 get away with it. 37:21.530 --> 37:23.449 Kylie! Kylie! 37:23.532 --> 37:26.953 But everyone thought it was okay, and if you'd signed up to be a pop star, 37:27.036 --> 37:30.164 then you're meant to be emotionally bulletproof. 37:30.248 --> 37:32.333 If you listen to it all, it's gonna drag you down. 37:32.416 --> 37:36.045 So, you know what's right, so you've got to believe in yourself. 37:36.128 --> 37:38.923 Kylie! Kylie! Kylie! 37:39.006 --> 37:41.384 And then, even further as a female pop artist, 37:41.467 --> 37:43.219 don't say anything, just… 37:44.095 --> 37:45.972 be pretty and shut up. 37:49.141 --> 37:53.896 But it really did hurt her because she's very musical. 37:53.980 --> 37:56.107 Do you want to go smack someone in the mouth? 37:56.190 --> 37:57.733 One of these journalists? 37:57.817 --> 37:59.026 Those days I say, 37:59.110 --> 38:01.279 "Today's newspapers, tomorrow's fish and chips." 38:01.362 --> 38:03.239 -Don't worry about it. -You don't worry? 38:03.322 --> 38:04.615 Try not to. 38:07.410 --> 38:09.662 There was a point in time I remember, 38:10.288 --> 38:12.498 it just all got too much. 38:12.581 --> 38:14.333 Kylie, hold something up! 38:14.417 --> 38:16.210 Take that camera away. 38:17.878 --> 38:22.008 I remember having a moment where I just kind of broke down. 38:22.091 --> 38:23.050 Kylie! 38:24.719 --> 38:29.265 I-I-I must have been crying. I must have been in a bit of a state and… 38:30.474 --> 38:34.186 I remember in that moment I would have loved to just stay in 38:34.270 --> 38:38.232 and not have to go out and face it and put myself 38:39.233 --> 38:40.276 out there. 38:41.360 --> 38:45.364 But that wasn't the conversation that we wanted to hear 38:45.448 --> 38:47.825 because our ship is out at sea. 38:47.908 --> 38:51.537 We can't go back to port and say we don't want to be on this ship anymore. 38:52.538 --> 38:53.956 Kylie, come on out here, kid. 38:54.040 --> 38:56.125 We can't change course now. 38:57.376 --> 38:59.295 Come on down! 39:00.713 --> 39:02.381 If you don't want the criticism, 39:03.549 --> 39:06.218 you don't read reviews. 39:07.136 --> 39:10.014 And this is the gold album for Kylie Minogue. 39:10.097 --> 39:12.516 You just make yourself immune from it. 39:13.559 --> 39:18.189 Kylie has the distinction of being the most successful female artist ever. 39:20.775 --> 39:23.819 I was insecure. I was uncertain. 39:23.903 --> 39:27.990 And when you're a singer, with all your emotions in your voice. 39:28.074 --> 39:31.952 I've got to be, got to be certain 39:32.036 --> 39:35.414 I've got to be so sure 39:35.498 --> 39:37.833 Out of ten, how good are you as a singer? 39:37.917 --> 39:38.918 Uh… 39:39.627 --> 39:42.421 -Oh, I couldn't say. -Go on. Don't be modest. 39:42.505 --> 39:43.381 Um… 39:44.215 --> 39:45.591 Five. 39:48.260 --> 39:51.680 I can see it in performances when there's so many voices in my head 39:51.764 --> 39:55.726 saying, "You can't do it. You just can't do it." 39:55.810 --> 39:58.687 Oh 39:58.771 --> 40:01.690 Oh, oh, oh-oh 40:01.774 --> 40:06.779 And I think it just sets you back, and then you question yourself, like… 40:06.862 --> 40:10.282 Maybe I'm not capable. Maybe they're right. 40:10.366 --> 40:14.328 I don't feel that Kylie is hugely talented. She's not original. 40:14.412 --> 40:17.415 She's a style-based act. She's almost a sort of DIY celebrity. 40:17.498 --> 40:19.041 How hollow her particular… 40:19.125 --> 40:25.005 Somehow in being a shape devised for everybody, you yourself become nobody. 40:27.883 --> 40:31.137 This is our room. It's a nice room, isn't it? 40:32.721 --> 40:34.807 And guess who's in the bathroom? 40:34.890 --> 40:38.018 Wow, it's Kylie Minogue. 40:39.186 --> 40:41.439 Who's that pointing the camera? 40:44.900 --> 40:49.155 When all the criticism came her way about her voice… 40:50.739 --> 40:51.866 she struggled. 40:56.871 --> 40:58.581 She really struggled. 41:00.499 --> 41:01.792 And I was like, 41:01.876 --> 41:04.920 "Well, maybe you shouldn't have gone down that route," 41:05.004 --> 41:07.339 because that's sort of how my attitude was. 41:09.967 --> 41:12.011 Don't look at me like that. 41:12.094 --> 41:15.890 Because her music career at that point had really taken off. 41:15.973 --> 41:17.016 And it… 41:17.099 --> 41:19.602 No, it didn't piss me off. 41:19.685 --> 41:22.188 But-- But it was like, um… 41:24.398 --> 41:25.441 Okay. 41:26.984 --> 41:28.319 I'm gonna go walk. 41:28.402 --> 41:31.572 We'd been this partnership in the show. 41:31.655 --> 41:32.907 And action. 41:34.074 --> 41:35.159 So, you're jealous? 41:35.242 --> 41:37.328 Of that woman? Get serious. 41:37.411 --> 41:43.042 Suddenly, I could see she was moving away from her acting. 41:44.835 --> 41:47.838 -It's a nice… -We have to go to dinner now. 41:47.922 --> 41:49.715 -Come on. -So, let's get going. 41:49.798 --> 41:52.509 So, there was a few arguments. 41:53.427 --> 41:55.346 That's Kylie getting all shitty. 41:56.013 --> 41:57.264 Little boss moss. 41:57.348 --> 41:58.474 Come on. 42:00.851 --> 42:02.520 -Come on. -I'm coming. 42:07.900 --> 42:10.861 And also, you know, I had my own ego at that point. 42:10.945 --> 42:14.531 "Why isn't this happening to me?" Do you know what I mean? 42:19.161 --> 42:21.705 Until they got on the phone and asked me to do it. 42:21.789 --> 42:22.998 And then it all changed. 42:25.709 --> 42:27.044 Don't cry 42:27.628 --> 42:31.215 You must have heard Some things about me… 42:31.298 --> 42:35.219 I mean, try working me out then at that point. I don't fucking know. 42:35.302 --> 42:38.639 That made you Have your doubts about me 42:38.722 --> 42:41.433 How do you feel about Jason's record deal? 42:41.517 --> 42:43.227 Well, he's been… 42:43.310 --> 42:47.690 I think he's been working on it, uh, for the last few months. 42:48.190 --> 42:50.567 With love to guide us 42:50.651 --> 42:53.320 Nothing can divide us 42:53.404 --> 42:55.864 You know, I guess I was frightened 42:55.948 --> 42:58.951 for some reason that I was going to lose her, you know. 43:00.202 --> 43:02.705 But, um… yeah. 43:09.712 --> 43:13.132 Okay, now we're on to another-- Another thing. 43:26.395 --> 43:28.230 My brother found this. 43:28.731 --> 43:32.318 My ticket from seeing INXS in Sydney. 43:33.277 --> 43:35.571 Which is where I met Michael the first time. 43:36.572 --> 43:37.406 Yeah. 43:37.906 --> 43:39.491 Live, baby, live 43:40.492 --> 43:43.329 Now that the day is over 43:44.997 --> 43:47.875 I got a new sensation 43:49.251 --> 43:51.503 In perfect moments 43:52.379 --> 43:57.217 I can describe what Michael's like on stage, but do yourself a favor, 43:57.301 --> 44:00.179 just watch him. 44:00.262 --> 44:01.889 Love, baby, love 44:03.015 --> 44:05.392 It's written all over your face 44:07.519 --> 44:11.649 There's nothing better we could do 44:16.320 --> 44:17.196 It… 44:18.656 --> 44:21.742 It's not exactly what I mean. He just was… 44:21.825 --> 44:23.285 He just had it. He had it. 44:28.499 --> 44:31.168 And I thought at one point, "I'm sure Michael looked at me." 44:31.251 --> 44:33.170 "I'm sure he looked at me in the audience." 44:33.754 --> 44:37.383 Are you ready for a new sensation? 44:37.466 --> 44:40.010 -New sensation -Right now 44:43.389 --> 44:44.348 Look, 44:45.265 --> 44:47.101 I don't have anything against Michael. 44:47.184 --> 44:49.228 It's gonna take you over 44:49.311 --> 44:51.188 New sensation 44:52.147 --> 44:53.899 I was a fan. 44:53.982 --> 44:56.735 He was everything, probably, I really wanted to be at that point, 44:56.819 --> 44:58.654 which is-- Even the irony. 45:01.198 --> 45:06.078 Right now, INXS are the hottest Australian export since Crocodile Dundee. 45:06.161 --> 45:07.996 Right now 45:08.080 --> 45:10.666 The latest chapter is lead singer Michael Hutchence's emergence 45:10.749 --> 45:12.209 as a sex symbol. 45:12.292 --> 45:14.795 -Do you like Michael Hutchence? -I love him! 45:14.878 --> 45:16.004 How hot? 45:16.088 --> 45:17.297 -Very hot! -Very hot! 45:17.381 --> 45:20.050 -Hot enough to get through his door? -Yes! 45:20.134 --> 45:22.970 Is sex at the heart in what you sell and do? 45:23.053 --> 45:27.599 Yeah, I think so. I like music that has sex in it. 45:27.683 --> 45:29.643 A new sensation 45:37.151 --> 45:38.235 Whoo! 45:38.318 --> 45:43.031 After his gig, Jason and I were invited back to the after-party. 45:43.115 --> 45:44.241 Let's go. 45:44.825 --> 45:46.368 I think we were in… 45:47.453 --> 45:49.246 We were in a very small car. 45:49.329 --> 45:52.833 I'd hired this, like, a Ford Fiesta. 45:52.916 --> 45:57.629 You know, they got into their stretch limo and said, "Follow us." 45:57.713 --> 46:01.425 And there's little old me with Kylie 46:01.508 --> 46:04.595 following this rock god and his entourage. 46:04.678 --> 46:11.018 Two of us in this tiny, little, crappy, little white vehicle to the hotel. 46:11.560 --> 46:13.228 So, that's when I met Michael. 46:16.106 --> 46:20.569 We're getting paid 1.4 million pounds for this tonight. I'm getting five grand. 46:20.652 --> 46:22.196 Five fucking grand. Five grand. 46:22.279 --> 46:24.573 That'll pay my fucking champagne bill at the hotel. 46:24.656 --> 46:25.824 What the fuck? 46:26.825 --> 46:28.368 Did you talk to Michael? 46:28.452 --> 46:30.204 He wasn't interested in me. 46:30.287 --> 46:31.455 Yeah. 46:31.538 --> 46:33.916 I could tell he was focused on her. 46:33.999 --> 46:37.211 Absolutely. I could sniff that one a mile away. 46:37.294 --> 46:41.965 And she disappeared with him into the bathroom, 46:42.049 --> 46:43.926 if I think-- If I remember correctly. 46:44.009 --> 46:45.844 Um, which is fine. 46:45.928 --> 46:47.095 Um… 46:47.179 --> 46:48.847 You know, grown-up. 46:50.599 --> 46:51.808 And… 46:52.935 --> 46:56.313 And I would have been feeling a bit like, "I don't know." 46:56.814 --> 47:00.108 How--Like, "How did we get here?" kind of thing. 47:00.192 --> 47:01.527 And… 47:02.361 --> 47:04.738 we were talking about singer stuff. 47:07.866 --> 47:10.160 And he said he lived in Hong Kong. 47:11.328 --> 47:13.789 And I was about to go to Hong Kong and Japan 47:13.872 --> 47:15.624 and do these live shows. 47:15.707 --> 47:17.084 I hadn't really done live shows. 47:18.418 --> 47:21.004 So, I was nervous as hell. 47:21.713 --> 47:25.384 There should be about 40,000 people. This whole area. 47:26.218 --> 47:28.470 Ooh, I can't imagine what it will be like, full of people. 47:28.554 --> 47:33.267 but there will be people in this whole area. 47:34.685 --> 47:37.938 And Michael was telling me about these magical drops. 47:38.021 --> 47:40.315 Something to help with your vocals. 47:40.399 --> 47:41.900 He was under the guise of, 47:41.984 --> 47:45.153 "Yeah, well, I'll-- I'll get the stuff for you, and…" 47:45.237 --> 47:46.697 "And can I take you for dinner?" 47:49.992 --> 47:53.287 Which led to us meeting in Hong Kong. 47:55.914 --> 47:58.166 And he was really late. 48:04.548 --> 48:08.844 I'm interested in somehow maintaining, 48:08.927 --> 48:12.014 um, something that I believe in, that's all. 48:12.097 --> 48:16.435 You know, I just believe in-- In the music that we do. 48:16.518 --> 48:17.728 And what I have to say. 48:17.811 --> 48:21.940 And if I can maintain that through all this, then I'll be very happy. 48:22.983 --> 48:24.568 I mean, I was… 48:25.569 --> 48:29.615 I was kind of mesmerized, and-- and he was mesmerized. 48:36.663 --> 48:41.418 But I know I'm right About this love of mine 48:41.501 --> 48:45.589 If I had to do it all again 48:45.672 --> 48:49.718 At that point in time, I didn't have any belief in my voice. 48:49.801 --> 48:52.554 So, I would lean to just doing lots of dancing. 48:55.724 --> 48:59.353 And Michael had some advice that stayed with me. 49:00.395 --> 49:02.856 "Some stillness is okay on stage." 49:02.940 --> 49:06.276 "You don't have to be running around all the time." 49:06.360 --> 49:08.528 But you know what we could do is just… 49:09.279 --> 49:11.281 the effect of stillness would be really good. 49:11.365 --> 49:12.366 Yeah. 49:12.449 --> 49:14.826 The first stage, we can stand there really straight. 49:14.910 --> 49:15.744 Yeah. 49:17.996 --> 49:20.874 If I had to do it all again 49:21.625 --> 49:26.088 I wouldn't change a single thing 49:26.672 --> 49:29.007 And those critical voices, 49:29.091 --> 49:32.135 for a few moments, went away. 49:35.639 --> 49:37.140 It's nice to think of. 49:37.224 --> 49:41.353 He's the best thing That happened to me 49:41.436 --> 49:45.857 And I'm not ashamed For the world to see 49:45.941 --> 49:48.902 If I had to do it all again 49:49.403 --> 49:50.570 Playback! 49:52.990 --> 49:55.242 Oh, every day 49:56.910 --> 49:59.162 Oh, every day 50:00.455 --> 50:04.710 My love is stronger 50:05.419 --> 50:06.503 Go again. 50:08.880 --> 50:11.258 I could tell something wasn't right. 50:18.640 --> 50:21.101 I could tell. I could smell it. 50:22.269 --> 50:23.854 All right. 50:25.105 --> 50:26.356 Hello. 50:28.942 --> 50:31.945 I don't like to be trapped in anything 50:32.029 --> 50:34.281 because I enjoy change, 50:34.364 --> 50:39.745 and I don't want to be hemmed in or boxed in or defined in a certain way. 50:39.828 --> 50:42.706 You were in my heart 50:42.789 --> 50:45.834 My love never changed 50:45.917 --> 50:48.712 I still feel the same 50:48.795 --> 50:51.757 Especially for you… 50:51.840 --> 50:53.550 The tiny 20-year-old singer 50:53.633 --> 50:57.429 has left the enormously successful soap series Neighbours. 50:57.512 --> 50:59.514 I mean, it's a plucky decision to leave Neighbours. 50:59.598 --> 51:03.602 …you know I would have flown to you… 51:03.685 --> 51:08.023 Jason and I will always have this undeniable bond. 51:08.106 --> 51:10.317 But things were about to change. 51:11.485 --> 51:13.737 There's no need to look at my picture yet. 51:13.820 --> 51:15.030 I'm still here. 51:15.822 --> 51:16.698 Not for long. 51:18.658 --> 51:20.035 Love hurts, mate. 51:20.118 --> 51:21.286 Because of you 51:21.369 --> 51:25.791 And now we're back together 51:26.416 --> 51:28.460 Together 51:28.543 --> 51:30.253 You just know there is a moment. 51:31.421 --> 51:33.632 The minute you don't surprise your audience… 51:33.715 --> 51:35.967 Right, that's some of that. 51:36.927 --> 51:39.971 …you become part of the ether. 51:40.055 --> 51:42.224 That's when have to come up with something different. 51:42.307 --> 51:46.520 You've had all your hits, yeah. But, oh yeah, it's just Kylie. 51:47.104 --> 51:48.897 What makes it not Kylie? 51:48.980 --> 51:52.067 Forget the loneliness and the sorrow 51:52.150 --> 51:54.778 I don't think I can say any more, to be fucking honest. 51:54.861 --> 51:58.031 Shit, I'll be in therapy tomorrow just getting over this. 51:58.115 --> 51:59.407 -No. -No, I'm joking. 51:59.491 --> 52:01.368 -It wasn't that bad. -No, I'm joking. 52:02.369 --> 52:04.162 What about your man? 52:04.913 --> 52:06.832 I just left him. 52:10.085 --> 52:11.920 So, then what happened? 52:23.181 --> 52:24.891 What you gonna do? 52:24.975 --> 52:27.310 Gonna live my life 52:28.061 --> 52:30.188 Any questions, anybody? , I'm joking.